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over the fiscal cliff even if they come up with an international monetary fun, an agreement is imminent. >> it prevents investors, entrepreneurs and households to make decisions because they don't know what tomorrow will be. >> president barack obama heads to washington to push for the democrats' plan but democrats have quite a bit of leverage, allison bops ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> north korea is extending it by another week at least until december 29th. scientists found a technical deficiency in that rocket. now the u.s. thinks they are using launches like that to test missiles that could be used to hit the u.s. mainland but north korea said they are only using it to put a satellite into orbit. >>> he is undergoing tests and officials have not said why he is not seeking treatment consistent with his age. he spend years in prison for fighting apart tied. he became the first black president and has since retired from public life. >>> a former head of the international on carry fun. he accused dominic to us conn and today lawmakers will update a judge on the damage of hurricane su
the dreaded fiscal cliff? it comes down to tax rates. this is a huge sticking point in the stalled negotiations between the president and mr. boehner. obama says the top rate on household income above $250,000 should rise from 35% to 39.6%. boehner wants the rate to stay at 35% or even lower. but what about meeting in the middle? around 37%? listen carefully to the speaker when he was asked today whether that rate could be the answer to this impasse. >> there are a lot of things that are possible. to put the revenue the president seeks on the table. but none of it's going to be possible if the president insists on his position. insists on my way or the highway. >> you hear what he said? a lot of things are possible. that may not sound like much where you're from, but here in washington, it sounds suspiciously like code for we're making progress. more evidence boehner's democratic counterpart house minority leader nancy pelosi also seems to be softening her language as we head into the weekend. listen. >> what we want to do is protect the middle class. so it's not about the rate. it
that in just a few short weeks, the fiscal cliff is coming to town ♪ merry cliffmas. and with a dramatic name like fiscal cliff, it's got to be exciting. jim? >> the president's asking for $1.6 trillion in revenue. >> $600 billion in tax hikes. >> entitlement reform. >> dividends and capital gains. >> discretionary spending. [ cheers and applause ] >> i'm up. what happened? is it over? [ bleep ] >>> good morning. it's wednesday, december 12th. look at that shot of new york city. >> wow. >> it's dark at 6:00 on the east coast. welcome to "morning joe." with us on set here in new york city, we have msnbc contributor, mike barnicle. >> in my ear, mika. >> no, he was at the white house. >> i don't understand. where's t.j.? >> he's off today. >> why's that? >> he was busy. he went to the white house. >> that's great. you know, alex went to the white house, too. >> and drove back himself. >> let me get this straight. so alex goes to the white house last night. >> mm-hmm. >> because, you know, right-wing bloggers, we actually -- that's how we get our talking points. they go down -- valerie and david
speaker john boehner, says there has been little progress. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> democrats show no signs of backing off from supporting the president's hard-line stance on raising the incomes tax rate for the rich. >> we democrats realize there have to about two sides to the bargain, but in 2011 we put both revenues and cuts on the table. >> but one republican senator revealed this week that tax increases might help solve america's debt crisis. so far the g.o.p. has stood imeps raising taxes. >> what we ought to be working on is the other 93%, because if you want to do what he wants on tax rates, you affect% of the deficit. we have spent ourselves into a hole and we're not going to raise taxes and borrow money and get out of it. so, will i accept a tax increase as a part of a deal to actually solve our problems? yes. ago am -- >> ama: the federal government is planning for the possibility of cuts. the white house ordered the military to plan on slashing 500 billion from the m
happens with the fiscal cliff. that is coming. what it will cost you. bill: hello, old man winter. he is out there and he is acoming. a major blizzard raging across the midwest bringing record levels of snow. it is de10th, right? martha: it is time. bill: so who is next? ♪ . martha: old man winter, a major storm is pounding parts of the upper midwest, unleashing record levels of snowfall. that's a lot out there. high winds, frigid air. minnesota of course very used to this kind of weather this time of year but even this is really out of the ordinary. reporter tom halden with our minneapolis affiliate ksft. he is driving, i don't know if i recommend that. there he is. he is out of the car. how bad is it out there? >> reporter: well, martha, it is really cold. we have been driving around the twin city roads this morning. we've been streaming and thought, you know what? it is 12 degrees. we have a full foot of snow on the ground. the kids are out of school, a lot of them, why not hop out of the car and let you guys know that winter finally arrived here. you know what? this is normal ki
's no progress to report. when it comes to the fiscal cliff that's threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was speaker boehner's downbeat assessment of fiscal negotiations. he went on putting blame squarely on the president. let's listen. >> this president has adopted of a deliberate strategy to slow walk our economy right to the edge of the fiscal cliff. it's time for the president, if he's serious, to come back to us with a counteroffer. >> shortly after house ni mort leader nancy pelosi put the plame back on republicans. let's listen. >> the only obstacle standing in the way of middle income tax relief are the republicans unwillingness to ask the top 2% to pay their fair share. this is a moment of truth. the clock is ticking. christmas is coming, the goose is getting fat, but in many homes across america it's very -- a very, very lean time. >> and today's jobs report showing 146,000 jobs added in november and unemployment dipping to 7.7% may give the president some leverage in negotiations with boehner. but wh
to deadline. there will be a deadline, the so-called fiscal cliff, coming up and the president has announced that we don't have enough time to do entitlement reform, we don't have enough time to do tax reform, we don't have enough time to do immigration reform. well, when are we going to start? when is there going to be a committee hearing designated towards entitlement reform? i've been here two years. there's no such committee. when will there be committee hearings and meetings on immigration reform? there won't be time, deadlines will pass. but why not break things up into smaller pieces? why have to have some enormous fiscal cliff, or whatever, that everybody has to agree to a thousand moving parts? we are of different persuasions, of different parties, of different beliefs. we're never going to agree on a thousand things. why don't we start passing some things we can agree to? this is a small step forward. we can pass this bill today. do you have an explanation that you can help me to understand why we have to have empty partisanship, why we can't move forward to pass some small things
immediate crisis. >> when it comes to the fiscal cliff that is threatening our economy and threatening jobs, the white house has wasted another week. >> reporter: democrats show no signs of backing off from supporting the president' hard line stance on raising the income tax rate on the rich. >> we democrats realize there has to be two sides to this bargain, but we're not going to go back to what bewy did in 2011. we put both revenues and cuts on the table. >> reporter: but despite the impasse in washington, the director sees promising signs that the economy may be improving. for the fiscal crisis she recommended a balanced solution, spending cuts combined with an increase in tax revenue. el geth corridan, kutv charles. >>> quarter of an inch assembly leaders say there is no plan to end a controversial practice of changing voteds after a bill passes or fails. half of those sworn into the assembly are new to the job and the associated press reports that during the past session assembly members changed their votes more than 5,000 times. the practice does not affect the outcome of a bill, but
the pieces coming together on the fiscal cliff some increase in marginal tax rates coupled with some kind of cutting back on tax expenditures. the real concern is shifting or will shift from the fiscal cliff to the debt limit. it's not clear that the republicans will agree to including a debt limit increase in that kind of package and if they don't, we may get past december 31st only to find ourselves with a big problem in february or march. >> the obama administration has been clear they will not sign anything. even to get past december 31st. so do you think they can hold firm on that if republicans offer them a package that doesn't include the debt ceiling? >> this is where i think the tension is now arising, which is even if you have some agreement over the tax rates which will jam the republicans a bit, can you jam them on the debt limit also, the concern will be an administration overstepping or overream reaching and trying to jam in the kinds being discussed now. i'm all in favor of getting rid of the debt limit. it makes no sense from a technical perspective. but it's probably a br
boehner met at the white house to discuss efforts to resolve the fiscal cliff, we're not reading out details of the communication, but the lines of communication remain open, end quote. this meeting comes as the white house and congress appear to be at at impasse, you know by now is crippling spending and tax hikes and could cost us jobs and send us back into recession and to solve the problem, republicans say we must prevent our ballooning national debt from crushing generations. and chief white house correspondent now ed henry joins us by phone with the latest on this breaking story, ed, they kept this under wraps. how big after deal is this? >> good evening, harris, there's not a deal yesterdt. but it's significant it's almost a month since speaker boehner and the president sat down at the white house. that's ever significance, there's been scattered phone calls and one plan the president put on the table, quickly rejected by the republicans and speaker boehner put a counter offer on the table and the white house dismissed that one so much so it's not really a real plan and that t
the economy from going over the fiscal cliff. >> all right. then crunch time. we all have the nfl week 14 action. as the the playoff picture starts to come more into focus. >> big, big football weekend right. >>> later, up for auction, a classic piece of casablanca's rich history is being sold 70 years later. i love that story! >> that's a great movie. first, family and friend mourning the loss of jenni rivera, a superstar of latin music. >> the so-called diva rivera had finished a concert and was on the way to another when her small plane crashed. abc's larry jacobs as the story. ♪ >> reporter: bewilderment and sense of loss among jenni rivera's fans in the los angeles area following news of the singer's plane crash in mexico. >> i think pretty devastate ford a lot of people. >> reporter: the mexican-american singing superstar was traveling in a jet early sunday morning when co comptrollers lost contract. mexican official say they have found the wreckage but no survivors. >> right now it is confirmed the plane went down. the plane is totaled. it's, nobody inside survived. >> reporter:
. >>> coming up, one more look at this morning's top stories. >> that include as deadline for the fiscal cliff and compromises from both sides of the aisle. >> we will be right back. al cliff. with . >>> welcome back. let's take a look at this morning's top stories. >> yes. we are back and forth on how to avert the fiscal cliff. it is just 22 days before the deadline and president obama says he is willing to cut entitlements and speaker john boehner is showing signs of not ruling out a tax hike for top earners. >> and muni is contemplating restructuring its fare structure based on income. a study on the issue is being conducted due to riders' mixed feelings about it. >>> and weather. lots of sunshine? >> yes. we have temperatures mostly in the mid 60s. 64 at concord. 62 at fairfield. here in the city 64 degrees an san jose should see 64. the next chance of rain wednesday. in the meantime, sunshine. >> okay. let's do another season story. >>> the season of giving continues at the san francisco bar pilots team one firefighters again this year. >> yes. they are all acting like elfs. the pilots b
will keep coming, and we will not hit the fiscal cliff. >> all right, gentleman, thank you for your insight. we'll see if there'll be a deal. time is running out. >>> live pictures as protesters outside the state capital continue to gather in lansing, michigan. hundreds are there to protest the right to work vote. today our poppy harlow is live inside the state capitol right now. poppy, what are you seeing around you. paint a picture for us inside the capitol. >> reporter: absolutely. well, we just got in some video, so hopefully our viewers can see that. this is the scene of the house senate chambers here at the state capitol in lansing, michigan. the house is currently in session and could vote any moment on this bill for right to work. i want to walk you -- it's really loud, but i want to walk you into the hall here. somewhere between 400 and 500 protesters chanting, we are union, we are union. [ inaudible ] >> all right, all right, poppy, we're going to give you a second to move a little bit inside the capitol there. we can't understand most of what you are saying. clearly, a lot of peo
could happen if the u.s. a economy goes over the fiscal cliff. economists surveyed said one and a half million americans could lose their jobs if lawmakers fail to come to an agreement and the automatic spending cut impact increases. forces are keeping an eye on some debts for a budget bill. the nasdaq gained due to a rebound by apple. the number was triggered by reports that it would lose shares to its rival google. apple is trying to regain market share from samsung. the to tech companies are back in court today to get it out over a $1 billion patent fight. meantime nationwide insurance is warning customers that its computers networked had been attacked. customers' names birth dates social skirted numbers and driver's license numbers were likely stolen. nationwide is apologizing and are offering customers an identity that protection for one year. start planning did vacations, walt disney new fantasyland is officially open. this is after what may be the biggest expansion in the orlando parts 41 year history. the estimated $300 million magic kingdom makeover includes giving up our g
numbers. rebuilding should help. >> heather: and facing this fiscal cliff, based on these job numbers, where do we need to be in order to serve that? >> we are not going into this fiscal cliff from a position of strength. there is no doubt, if we cliff dive on this we're going to have a high unemployment a lot of people will be laid off because of the spending cuts and tax increases. >> heather: and we are facing tax increases. >> absolutely. >> heather: thank you. >> gregg: new chaos unfolding in the middle east as egypt's military threatens the protestors there. syria preparing to unleash chemical weapons and people are scared seen here running for their lives to prevent two catastrophes from getting a whole lot worse. staechb yates will be with us next. [ male announcer ] red lobster's crabfest ends soon. hurry in and try five succulent entrees, like ourender snow crab paired with savory garlic shrimp. just $12.99. come into red lobster and sea food differently. and introducing 7 lunch choices for just $7.99. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fa
on the fiscal cliff be the grand bargain that puts the debt issue to bed or just enough to get past the cliff? or could the president get big concessions from john boehner and force liberals to sign off a-o a big inteelgtsment change? much more talk the past week about hillary clinton gearing up to run for president. in a new washington post poll, her numbers like like they would give her a quick route to the nomination. and a strong chance to win the white house for a clinton third term. join me and david ignatius, john harris, michele caruso ka fwrar cabrera for a great round table. here's what's coming up on "meet the press." ma,ñ0ót5 behind?n00o thisu this morning i'll go inside negotiations with two lawmakers close to them, dick durbin of illinois and congressman, one of boehner's top advisers. i spent time on capitol hill this week. one question i'm dealing with this morning, what has actually changed since last summer's debt debacle? my sense is we may be closer to a deal than some of all the publicr7ó(w- leads to you believe. we'll talk about that. with our political round ta
need a deal on the fiscal cliff. thank you for joining us on the conversation on "your money." have a great weekend. >>> hello, thank you for joining us. i'm allison cossack, fredericka whitfield is off. president and house speaker john boehner met today at the white house. we're not getting details yet as to how those negotiations went, except to stay that the lines of communications remained open. both sides of the fiscal cliff negotiations are much closer than you may think despite what law makes say publicly. jackie calms of the "new york times" picked up on something that lawmaker tim cole said recently. >> the republicans should just declare victory and taking the 98% of the tax cuts that they agree on and work next year on tax reform and see if they can't get the top rate back down again. it's hard to think that that's not where they're going to end up so why not make it clean instead of ugly. >> i think it's true that many people are saying privatery what tom cole said publicly on the show. but they believe that the politically right thing to do right now is to cut that you
for spending cuts and tax revenues to avoid the so called fiscal cliff. time is running out now for both parties to reach a compromise. we have the latest. >> the deadline to avoid the fiscal cliff is december 316789 lawmakers have less time if they want get something together that congress can pass and the president can sign. >> the longer the white house road blocks this discussion, closer our economy gets to the fiscal cliff. >> in an interview, the president was optimistic a deal can be reached. >> i'm confident republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> monday night, white house sent speaker boehner on offer including $1.2 trillion in new revenue. yesterday, boehner sent a counter proposal back but looked almost exactly like their original plan. $800 in new revenue continues to be the sticking point. tax rates on the top earners. republicans insist the white house gives them specifics on the cuts the president is willing to make. yesterday spokesman brought out a copy of the budget, evidence they've done that alre
the fiscal cliff or do you think that judging from your seeing what this meeting behind closed doors now and as time comes down to the end that they will come up with a deal at the 11th hour? >> well, look, there's always that possibility that you know, they could go over the fiscal cliff, but you're right in pointing out that this is how it usually plays out is that everyone voicing optimism at the start. then there's a lot of rhetoric that's thrown around. both sides getting sort of dug in positions and then you start to get sort of this air of compromise. what we're sensing now is that there does appear to be this willingness on both sides to compromise. you hear democrats talking about entitlements, willing to back down on entitlements, and then some republicans talking about you know, some kind of increase in taxes for wealthy americans and so, that really is a starting point where both sides have been digging in now for weeks and the hope is that this, there could be some real movement this week. get this wrapped up before the fiscal cliff scenario plays out. >> all right, dan loth
. with the fiscal cliff looming, how will it affect holiday shopping? that story coming up. >> and the radar looks messy right now, heavier rain showers coming in from northern virginia. details in the insta-weather plus forecast. >> trackidy hits the dallas cowboys one day before they're scheduled to play the bengals. the latest on the arrest of one player and death of another. >> you're watching wbal-tv 11, live, local, late breaking. [captioning made possible by constellation energy group] >> good morning and welcome to 11 news sunday morning, i'm franciotti. lisa has the day off. >> i'm kerry cavanaugh. first, a look outside with ava and it was soupy today. >> like pea soup. it's a mess out there. we basically have all this fog we have to deal with, showers, as well, to watch for. earlier this morning, low visibility because of the dense fog from baltimore county to st. mary's county and eastbound, the lower eastern shore and delaware, as well. if you look at the radar, you can see showers across baltimore city moving up 95 into white marsh into edgewood and temperatures from the upper 40's to
coming up in the middle of this battle over the fiscal cliff could make this really complicated. some republicans are discussing offset spending cuts elsewhere in the budget now to help fund this legislation. lori: good luck with that. melissa: let's check the market, nicole petallides on the floor of the new york stock exchange. we add another company to our daily accelerated dividend watch? nicole: that is right, we are indeed doing just that on a day the dow was up 130 points, maybe some investors are already happy to see an up arrow to the market. western digital, those shareholders are getting a nice boost. the stock is up 9%. joining over 110 companies accelerated the dividend payout. if you are watching a fox business network know by coding the dividend payout they are not susceptible to a higher tax rate in 2013 if the fiscal cliff does not go well. there is no bipartisan agreement on the way to save the day. so many other companies, wal-mart, eastern allen, weight watchers all payouts as dividends ahead of this year. back to you. melissa: but wait, there is another company to
in the coming days. online we have a report from our partners at kaiser health news on how the fiscal cliff could affect health care for the military and for medicare patients. >> brown: next, a potential crisis of a different kind, one that has new urgency after hurricane sandy and that also involves federal spending: rising sea levels. today, new york city mayor michael bloomberg announced a new long-term initiative to protect the city from future natural disasters. he called for rebuilding vulnerable coastal areas, but dismissed again the idea of constructing a large sea-gate across the harbor. >> we're not going to abandon the waterfront. we're not going to abandon the rockaways or coney island or staten island's south shore. but we can't just rebuild what was there and hope for the best. we have to build smarter and stronger and more sustainably. >> woodruff: 350 miles south. the city of norfolk, virginia, is another coastal city vulnerable to sea level rise and extreme storms. but its mayor has said parts of his city might not be livable in the future. our producer, mike melia, travel
principles. host: do they believe a recession could happen if we fall off the so called "fiscal cliff?" guest: they do. what we saw last year is business leaders were concerned that washington was not going to come together with a deal. and that it could end badly, but it was a more muted concern. they just trusted washington would get it done. given how quickly things happened last time, they are taking a much more active role. business leaders have come to washington to require a minimum height standard for the ride of the fiscal cliff. they want to make sure that members of either party who are speaking out are as close as possible to simpson-bowles. talk about real cuts, about real revenue. it's much more and ownership in the process this time. host: where does your group come down on regulations? guest: our job is to go out and get business leaders around the country more involved. the business leaders speak for themselves. business leaders are generally extremely influential in their home markets. there are the kind of people if that can give a member of congress moderate republican or
that matters? >> knocking on the door with a wad of cash -- [ laughter ] >> sad, but true. >>> coming up, one more look at this morning's top stories. >> and that includes the deadline for the so-called fiscal cliff, the possible compromises from both sides of the aisle. >> we'll be right back. ,,,,,,,, more back and forth on how o avert the . >>> welcome back. let's take a look at this morning's top stories. >> more back and forth on how to avert that fiscal cliff. we are just 22 days before the deadline. president obama says he is willing to cut some entitlements and speaker john boehner is not ruling out a tax hike for top earners. >>> and muni is contemplating changing their fare to be based on a person's income. the bay area lead transit body is conducting a study on the issue due to riders' mixed feelings. >>> and "face the nation" is coming up next on cbs 5. for us, we move over to the cw, where salmon have suddenly appeared after a 50-year absence. channel 44, cable 12, starting at 8:30 a.m. >> what are we supposed to do? we're supposed to swim upstream. we forgot about that. >> well,
there is the fiscal cliff. implications of that. interesting thing about this whole report in general is that it came in much better than expected and that could actually wind up being a bad thing for the negotiations going on capitol hill because it may not light a fire under lawmakers. may not give them the motivation to compromise when they would maybe be more willing to compromise if the jobs numbers were weaker. so a lot of interesting things going on with this report. a lot of implications. deb? >> definitely still room to fix the economy. alison kosik for us at the new york stock exchange, thank you so much. >>> well, after weeks in hiding and on the run, john mcafee's bid for asylum in guatemala has been rejected. he may be deported back to belize. more on this bizarre case coming up. yep. the longer you stay with us, the more you save. and when you switch from another company to us, we even reward you for the time you spent there. genius. yeah, genius. you guys must have your own loyalty program, right? well, we have something. show her, tom. huh? you should see november! oh, yeah? giving yo
the president and congress to come some sort of compromise on avoiding the fiscal cliff. only 18% of people say they still want each side to dig in their heels and stand on principle. both asking each other could you be more specific? aids say the president wanted boehner to offer up more issues on the tax revenue, and boehner wants the president to be more particularly about spending cuts. states have until this friday to tell the federal government whether they want to set up their own insurance exchanges or do it themselves. the government has given conditional approval to six tait -- states who want to do it themselves. six want a state and federal partnership, and six haven't said anything at all. tennessee is the latest to say it won't set up an online marketplace bringing the total to 21. republican governor said he is not a fan of the care act but he is one of several republicans who just did nothing until now, hoping the law would be overturned. we're back after the break. ♪ in the ten commandments is what >> she's joy behar. ... and current will let me say a
are holding the global economy hostage over the fiscal cliff. >> susie: and apple shares get
to the fiscal cliff. >> let's get more with the former treasury secretary during the clinton administration robert rubin joining us now. mr. secretary, thanks very much for coming in. >> happy to be here, wolf. >> where are the white house proposals for spending cuts? i know they want to spend a lot of time in terms of raising tax revenues but why not come up with a specific plan for what the republicans say they now need spending cuts. >> basically the president has laid out where he wants to be on spending. we have to have significantly greater revenues and if you're going to avoid middle income tax increases in one fashion or another, most has to come from raising rates on the top two brackets and that's what president obama proposed. in terms of the spending side, they enacted a trillion and a half of reductions and what's called discretionary part of the budget. he has proposed reductions in entitlements as you know and the budget that he's put out. and then there's substantial savings on interest on the debt that would be incurred if we didn't have deficit reduction and then finally t
. >> to washington, d.c. now and the fiscal cliff negotiation. the back and forth between both sides hasn't been complimentary. quite the opposite, in fact, which means the country needs to prepare for what comes next. that would be automatic spending cups and the expiration of bush era tax breaks. the pentagon has been preparing, and as our john callan reports, so have families who have a whole lot to lose if a deal doesn't get done. >> reporter: jeremy connor, married father of two. >> i've worked recently for a very large defense contractor, and my wife works for that same defense contractor. >> reporter: he left that job after 18 years for more stability since the couple both worked in the same department. >> the discussion of the fiscal cliff just made sense for one of us to get out. >> you know, we didn't know what it looked like down the road, if we were even going to have jobs at all. >> reporter: pentagon's budget for the next ten years has already been flashed $500 billion, and could face another half trillion in automatic cuts if congress fails to compromise on a deficit-reducing agre
in the past, the more difficult it became to find them. >>> we turn now to the fiscal cliff. just 22 days before everyone's taxes go up, every government program is cut. there's a bit of hope that a deal to avoid the consequences could be coming, sparked by the first meeting in weeks between the president and john boehner. jake, what do we know about the meeting? >> reporter: they spoke on the phone on friday and set up a meeting for yesterday. speaker boehner did come here. and though i don't think there's any reason to believe we're really close to a deal, progress has been made, though one side of the talks staaid that that progress is fragile. >> we're getting close to the point, really, by tend of the week, if they're not a lot closer, it might be too hard to do by the end of the year. >> there could be a quick fix solution. republicans agree to keep the tax cuts in place for the 98% of the country. avoid tax cuts for a few month, go take winter break. that would not be a long-term solution but would avert the fiscal cliff. >> hillary clinton's future, talking about her for 2016, are
and strong arm numbers into volting for it because they have to so we don't go over the fiscal cliff later. >> i want to jump on to the next topic chlgt this has been a big one. robert, i start with you, history in the making with the latest poll showing a reversal in attitudes toward marriage equality. 37% thought same-sex marriage should be legal in 2004, now 53% are in support. is the republican party going to evolve with public sentiment on this issue, at least on the public front? perception being reality, the republican party is perceived to be behind the times on this issue. >> thomas, the short answer is i don't know. the long answer is there's two conversations going on within the republican party. do the evangelical wing of the party continue to dominate and they have since 1964 or is the libertarian wing of the party, something i'm more familiar with going to control the party. when you look at the libertarian wing of the party, they are about less government. we could care a less what you do in the privacy of your bedroom and who you fall in love with. it's more about limited g
what with this fiscal cliff thing? do you sense how this is going to play out at all? >> no. >> stephanie: okay good, thanks for calling. >> every time you think something is going to happen, somebody else comes out and says no no, no, we're not going to raise are the medicare age even though there were signs that was going to happen. klein wrote about that recently. now democrats came out this weekend. dick durbin and others saying we're not going to raise the medicare age. >> stephanie: i think that's a bad idea. there is a lot of unintended stuff that's going to happen from that which is not -- it just defeats the purpose. >> totally. not only that but it is in its own way, in sort of the language that republicans use, it is raising rates on seniors because people 65 to 67 are going to have to go to the private market and get insurance. now sure, the government may not be paying for it. but -- so it might cut the cost. >> stephanie: they're going to raise the rates because those will be the youngest, healthiest
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